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Using Livecloud on a website
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Hi Phil,

I appreciate the time you took to express your thoughts. I may not have clearly articulated what we are doing. My response may be a bit long with more information than you want. I am sure it will help me with an extended elevator pitch or a fun origin conversation.

We do not want to splinter our products in any way. And, we want to augment what LiveCode has already done while exploring alternative methods for app making.

Here is the lineup in a brief form.
  • -LiveCode is an IDE, full-code editor, and multi-platform executable maker.
  • -CanelaDB is a database that requires a LiveCode license.
  • -LiveCloud is a backend that works with CanelaDB and LiveCode.
  • -Appli is an IDE, low-code editor, and end-to-end distribution solution via a player available in the iOS and Android stores. It does not require a LiveCode license. Though, if you have one, you can export LiveCode script to Appli.
Our dream is to provide a simple method for working with databases. CanelaDB is a vital step in the right direction. CanelaDB's local APIs are free to use forever. There is more to do in this space, but it meets today's primary goal.

Soon after developing the local APIs, we thought it would be great to bring this simplicity to cloud calls. We developed LiveCloud to use CanelaDB with almost no changes to anyone's code. We charge a nominal fee to cover a portion of the expense of managing the various regions. Canela subsidizes the rest.

We use LiveCode for more than 90% of our development. It is a fantastic tool for making software. We think that UI work is tedious. It is even especially challenging for mobile development.

We started work on a plugin for the LiveCode IDE that would allow us to bind data to fields. The progress on the plugin inspired us to do more. But, our ideas became too big to shoehorn into an already well-thought development environment. LiveCode works as intended.

A new IDE that modeled the design of popular tools like Adobe XD, Sketch, and Figma, allowed logic with drag-and-drop ease, and output a working app that would not require an Apple/Google developer account would be excellent! Appli was born of everything that came before it.

Appli will appeal to a subset of the LiveCode community. To help with integration, we developed a plugin that will export LiveCode scripts into Appli. We also want Appli to be helpful to an audience outside of the LiveCode community. Appli is a standalone service that does not require a LiveCode license. If you have an LC license, you can take advantage of your coding skill and use the plugin we developed. And, LiveCode generates income with every Appli sale - a winning scenario for all.

Designers will be able to do the work they do, using the flow they know and love today, with a final result that can be the final product. At a minimum, the output would be the very best mockup possible.

Companies big and small need to quickly create specialized apps that work just for them. Big companies, in particular, will not need to burden their IT. Instead, they can be productive with a tool to support the non-developer. Appli does well with data and views.

As you can see, Appli is not a better or different version of what we created. Appli is instead a tool that brings all of our developer products together. Appli's tiers will still allow you to access CanelaDB and LiveCloud for LiveCode development. Plus, you get all of Appli.

A larger market will have demands that exceed what our current cloud pricing can support. It will not serve anyone if we do not appropriately price Appli so we can continue to build the team needed to make this service reach all of its goals.

Our MVP's first release will be a taste of what we have planned for you and everyone. Feel free to give it a try. Send me your email, and I'll provide you free, early access to Appli. Please email us at hello@appli.io.

-Mark
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Using Livecloud on a website - by philippecoenen - 10-17-2021, 08:34 AM
RE: Using Livecloud on a website - by Jose Damaso - 04-03-2022, 01:06 PM
RE: Using Livecloud on a website - by mark_talluto - 04-08-2022, 06:12 PM

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